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How a Gamer Built an Ideal Career by Building Gaming Community Sites with Franz Cavatorta (AoL 085)

We gamers – we’re an interesting group. For that matter, so is the gaming community at large. Many of us join the ranks for social reasons or just because it’s a great past-time.

When I first started playing online games, I quickly developed friendships with folks that I had never met. But because we were on daily, we got to know each other. I still keep in touch with some of those peeps – nearly 20 years later (dang).

It’s very common to build those bonds.

However, sometimes we outgrow our needs for games – we realize that there’s more out there and many of us have to put down the games to achieve those new things.

I’ve had to do that myself, as well as today’s guest.

However, I wouldn’t say that we’ve quit gaming as a whole. I’d still rather play than watch TV.

And today’s guest, Franz Cavatorta, has gone to another level – he actually makes fellow gamers his clients if they need a website done for their clan, guild, or crew.

In today’s chat, Daniel (also a gamer) and I talk with Franz. We learn what inspired him to start this business and some of the experiences he’s gone through to get to the level he’s at today.

He also discusses some of the things that this lifestyle allows him to do – which, in itself, is a great reason to start.

If you’re a gamer and you’re looking for some options to be more constructive with your time, then you might be able to learn a thing or two from Franz. Perhaps it all starts with being part of a gaming community?

Thanks for listening, and enjoy the show!

SPECIFICALLY, YOU’LL FIND OUT MORE ABOUT:

  • What kind of video games has Franz enjoyed playing? 8:10
  • What’s Franz’ perspective of the gaming world? 11:54
  • What’s his current lifestyle like now? 14:26
  • How did he learn the skill set that utilizes to do his work? 16:56
  • How long did it take him to start building his own business after creating his first gaming community? 22:12
  • How did he go from specifically developing for ThemeForest to starting to take on clients? 34:31
  • What kind of new clients is Sky Warrior themes interested in pursuing now? 36:41
  • What’s the benefit of a gaming clan having their own website? 40:04
  • How does someone build a community around their awesome new site? 43:17
  • What’s in the future of Skywarrior Themes? 47:27
  • 3 Influencers that have helped Franz get to where he is today? 54:22
  • Hardest thing he’s ever had to say no to? 56:13
  • What is something he still wishes was a thing? 59:20
  • What’s a life skill that he’s amazed that people lack? 1:00:41
  • Secret to achieving personal freedom? 1:05:33
  • … and MUCH more!

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SHOW NOTE EXTRAS:

Franz’ Kendo Action 1:

Franz’ Kendo Action 2:

Motorbiking Montage:

Airsoft Battle Footage:

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Thanks for Listening!

Thanks so much for joining us again this week. Have some feedback you’d like to share? Leave a note in the comment section below!

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Cheers!

Arne Giske: Working While Traveling – Exploring a Digital Nomad’s Lifestyle (AoL 084)

Living life on your own terms.

To some, that means simply having a business that allows them to stay at home and be with their kids. To others, that business might allow them to interact with some of the biggest names in their industry.

While yet others, like today’s guest, use their business as a method to not only enable them to work remotely, but as the motor for them to travel around the world as a major part of their lifestyle.

Arne Giske is what you’d call a digital nomad.

Having been an entrepreneur most of his life, he’s developed a business that allows him to not only be mobile, but engage with folks all over the world. During the time that he’s done this, he’s also developed a podcast and Facebook group under the brand “The Millennial Entrepreneur”.

In today’s chat with Arne, we find him just finishing up spending some time in Columbia before heading off to Florida for this weekend’s AdCon conference.

Daniel and I get the chance to find out more about his lifestyle including why he chose to live his life this way, some Do’s and Don’ts for growing a large Facebook group, and what business he currently finds himself in to power his way around the globe.

Arne’s a great guy to know if you’re looking to travel while working, too!

Thanks for listening, and enjoy the show!

SPECIFICALLY, YOU’LL FIND OUT MORE ABOUT:

  • How did Arne become a pedicab driver and when did he start favoring entrepreneurship as part of his lifestyle? 8:18
  • What was Arne’s experience in the MLM world like after college? 14:46
  • What kind of lifestyle does Arne find himself in these days as a digital nomad? 18:00
  • What was it that made Arne believe that a job wasn’t something he wanted to do? 22:39
  • How does Arne help people see Facebook as a place for business? 23:26
  • What are some of Arne’s Do’s and Don’ts for his group? 28:08
  • What is it that Arne is currently building his business on? 31:10
  • How did he know he wanted to help other people with that particular skill? 33:37
  • Three top favorite books he recommends to people regularly. 40:08
  • Something Arne wishes was still a thing. 42:40
  • Smallest decision he’s made that has had the greatest impact on his life? 44:01
  • What basic life skill is he amazed people lack? 44:48
  • How can someone be a difference maker in their community? 47:27
  • … and MUCH more!

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SHOW NOTE EXTRAS:

Example of a Pedicab Driver at SXSW:

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Arne’s Good News from Columbia:

Arne Giske talks Chat Bots For Business:

Ask Me Anything with Arne Giske:

#AskGaryVee Session 244:

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Thanks for Listening!

Thanks so much for joining us again this week. Have some feedback you’d like to share? Leave a note in the comment section below!

If you enjoyed this episode, please share it using the social media buttons you see at the top of the post.

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If you have any questions feel free to email them over via the email mentioned in the show or by our contact form.

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Cheers!

Sabah Ali: The Double Major Entrepreneur – How to Combine College Life and Business Achievement (AoL 083)

College can mean different experiences to different people.

For me, I lived two lives. One, when I was an undergrad, where I was studying all the time and worrying about why I sucked so bad at taking tests and feeling like I had to plagiarize just to pass my classes. I never felt comfortable in my own skin, let alone think about doing anything extracurricular.

And then, in grad school, things changed dramatically. I was suddenly forced into the front of the class – 6 times a week – and found myself in all kinds of clubs.

This had a profound effect on my perspective of life and I finally started emerging from my shell.

But that was just my take on college.

Some people go into college knowing precisely what they want to do. They also have a mission to do as well. Laila’s story was like that as we’ve come to learn. So is today’s guest, Sabah Ali.

Sabah is simply crushing her college career. Not only is she double majoring (yeah, that’s hard enough right there!) but she’s finding time to do a ton of extracurriculars. Writing and publishing a bestselling book. Starting a podcast. And even going to various conferences with mentors and various connections.

In this session’s chat, we find out more about this path of hers. Where the inspiration for the book and podcast came from, and how she’s successfully balancing everything.

As always, thanks for listening, and enjoy the show!

SPECIFICALLY, YOU’LL FIND OUT MORE ABOUT:

  • What was Sabah’s life before he got started as an entrepreneur? 10:24
  • What inspired her to get into fashion? 11:57
  • Why did she double major in fashion and business? 14:16
  • What inspired her at an early age to want to start a fashion business? 17:05
  • What is Sabah currently working on (as of this interview)? 23:19
  • How has her background knowledge of achieving goals helped her create her book? 29:07
  • Why did she write a book in one are when she’s wanting to build a business in fashion? 35:05
  • What’s the story behind the event that Sabah is putting on at Iowa State? 39:28
  • If she could change the world anyway she could, what would she help other people go? 42:19
  • What can people expect from Sabah and Dan’s podcast? 44:53
  • How do they position the podcast? 47:09
  • 3 Influencers that have helped Sabah get to where she is today 51:16
  • What’s the hardest thing that she’s had to say no to? 51:49
  • Something she used to believe in as a 18 year old and doesn’t now? 52:14
  • If she woke up as her 10 year old self and all of her memories were still intact, what would she do? 52:47
  • What’s the secret to achieving personal freedom? 53:20
  • … and MUCH more!

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ITEMS and PEOPLE MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

SHOW NOTE EXTRAS:

Hector Santiesteban interview:

Hanging Out while a new Spring Semester gets Started:

Thanks from Sabah:

Dorm Rooms to Conference Rooms – Pivoting in Your Life:

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Thanks for Listening!

Thanks so much for joining us again this week. Have some feedback you’d like to share? Leave a note in the comment section below!

If you enjoyed this episode, please share it using the social media buttons you see at the top of the post.

Also, please leave an honest review for The AoL Podcast on iTunes! Ratings and reviews are extremely helpful and greatly appreciated! They do matter in the rankings of the show, and we read each and every one of them.

If you have any questions feel free to email them over via the email mentioned in the show or by our contact form.

And finally, don’t forget to subscribe to the show on iTunesStitcherSoundcloud, and/or Google Play Music. It’s absolutely free to do so.

A huge thank-you to you guys for joining us!

Cheers!

Make a Living From Your Passion: Niche Marketing & Niche Product Development

Last week we briefly discussed the idea of a sales funnel. They’re essentially used to make a person who has no idea who you are or what you’re about into someone that’s going to buy from you.

You’ve probably heard of sales funnels in one way or another. So what I shared with you wasn’t anything new.

But, if you’ve been following the blog or the podcast for awhile, you know that I talk about two things when it comes to making a sale in a business. You can use niche product development or niche marketing. Both use sales funnels in their own way.

In this week’s post, I’m going to share with you what those phrases mean exactly and when you might want to use one over the other.

 

Defining Niche Marketing and Niche Product Development

Both niche marketing and niche product development use avatars to represent the Who. Without having that person in mind, you really have no target in what you’re building your product, service, or even your message for.

However, they both approach the How? in a completely different way.

If you remember from Simon Sinek’s Golden Circle TED talk, he talked about the Why – How – What when it comes to businesses. I can imagine that if you’ve seen the talk, your focus was really focusing on the Why factor – I mean, that IS the focus of the talk after all!

But since a good majority of what we talk about here at New Inceptions is in the Why category, we really don’t need to discuss that right now.

We’re actually looking at the How. The How is all about the process of how products are made.

A quick look at their definitions will show that their end goal is similar, but the approaches are completely different.

Niche Product Development 

This is where you make a product for a specific type of client by helping with their pain points from the very beginning. The more intimate day to day information you actually know about these folks and their pains, the better your product will be able to help them out.

If you really do your homework well and build what this niche of folks really needs, you’ll have no problems selling to them – especially if they help you make it. From there you can switch to niche marketing and using sales funnels to increase the number of users or customers you have.

 

Niche Marketing

With niche marketing, you have a product or service already available. Your job is to simply find potential buyers and convey the benefits of the product to them in a way that makes sense for them to eventually buy.

As we found out in the last post, the main thing you need to learn how to do is help a cold lead turn into a hot lead. Learning how to highlight benefits that will be of interest to that one lead is vital to making the sale.

What’s interesting is that someone who uses niche product development will also employ niche marketing eventually for the same business and/or product. I mean, there comes a time where you can’t keep changing the product too drastically!

Or, they might go the other way. From niche marketing to niche product design. You might have a product that needs another product to explain how to use the first one.

It really depends on where they’re at in life and in business.

You’ll find out more about that in the next post. Right now we’re just going over definitions.

 

Using Niche Marketing

So niche marketing is something that we’re all familiar with. Especially after last week’s post. I mean, that’s the basics of it.

When it’s used at it’s worst, we hear about used car salesmen. When it’s used at it’s best, we can think about people who have made a fortune in direct sales or MLM’s. Or, another thought, is that there’s already a market for a product or service and one company copies another company’s efforts.

Those situations, where a product or service is already been proven to work, are about the only times when niche marketing can be used effectively.

For example, niche marketing is exactly what Brendon Burchard does with Expert’s Academy. However, he uses sales funnels instead of 1 on 1 meetings with potential buyers.

When you apply niche marketing to a new product or service – the results can be disastrous. Not only for the new company, but potentially for the end user as well!

Again, in niche marketing, your job is to be able to communicate the product or service to the potential buyer. That means being able to express potential benefits and caring if they get the right product for their needs.

 

Using Niche Product Development

But let’s say you don’t want to be a car salesman and you don’t want to be involved in an MLM?

You have this new idea that you want to get out into the world. But it’s not market tested. Or perhaps you don’t have even an idea yet? That’s fine as well!

From what I’ve learned first hand and seen out in the world, niche product development (and properly scaling it) is the best way to not only make sure you don’t fail at your first company, but it’s also the most cost effective method.

Since this is something that might be sounding a bit vague at this point, here’s a breakdown of how niche product development usually works.

  1. Ask people what they need in a market you’d like to help.

    If you’re looking to do something with high earning potential, the best choice is a product you can make into a money tree – say a SaaS product or a membership community. Essentially you’re making a tool for a market that they’re “renting” access to.

    Worst choice is a service – because just like Robert Kiyosaki says, you can only work so many hours a day. Even when you bring on more people, there’s a cap there as well.

     

  2. Bring on help to make the product.

    You don’t want to be stuck with all the creation efforts. Again, there’s only so many hours in a day for you to work on this thing. It’s not like Trump made all of his buildings by himself. You need to bring on construction workers for your new project.

     

  3. Ideas take money to develop.

    As much as we’d like them to be, businesses aren’t 100% free to build. Where do you get that money? Investors and early customers are a couple of ideas. Either way you go, you might need to learn how to persuade them to get behind your idea.

     

  4. Run a beta test.

    Get as many people on board to try out your new product in an incomplete state. Get validation and feedback from those folks before you finalize the product.

     

  5. Sales Funnel

    When you do have your product made, it’s time to get that sales funnel going. Again, refer to the last post for the basics.

You can apply this method to any type of product based business. Whether it’s information based, physical, or software. Just remember that if they’re having to rent their access from you, that’s when you have the potential to bring in the most income! More users means more dollar bills.

 

Action Steps:

So hopefully this finally explains some of the differences of the two main ways to be an entrepreneur. If you want to know more about Niche Product Development, check out Pat Flynn’s Will It Fly book. That book covers pretty much everything you need to know in full.

Again, there’s other options out there, such as The Foundation, if you need more accountability.

Next week, we’ll talk about some situations in your life where you might opt to use one method versus the other.

Ryan Michler: The Order of Man – Teaching Guys How to Be Masculine Men (AoL 082)


In today’s world, many would say that a lot of men have lost their masculinity.

That’s why guys like Neil Strauss, Jordan Harbinger, John Eldredge, and Brett McKay are as well known as they are.

They specialize in helping men get better in their lives. However, they each do so in very different ways.

Today’s guest, Ryan Michler, is adding his name to that list with his organization, the Order of Men.

I’m really thrilled to have him on as helping guys step into their own has a special meaning to me.

In fact, it’s one of the reasons I became a Mason. I wanted to join an organization that has been all about developing men as functional parts of their community.

In this session with Ryan, we discuss a number of topics including what inspired him to start Order of Man, how he’s built the group in such a short period of time, and what it might look like to be part of the organization.

As always, thanks for listening, and enjoy the show!

SPECIFICALLY, YOU’LL FIND OUT MORE ABOUT:

  • What pulled Ryan into the military? 9:31
  • What got him to eventually start the Order of Man? 11:47
  • Who were some of the initial guys he wanted to have conversations with in his podcast? 17:16
  • How did Ryan move from free creative thought to monetization of Order of Man? 18:50
  • Is there a difference in membership and the curriculum of Order of Man? 21:26
  • What’s the Order of Man Live Event consist of? 23:53
  • How did Ryan get out of letting society tell him what to do? 27:13
  • How has Ryan figured out how to reach people at different levels of technical know how? 33:41
  • How did Ryan start building the Order of Man’s presence on Facebook? 36:15
  • How has the mindshift been for the members of the Order of Man? 43:34
  • What’s something that Ryan does on day 1 to rattle their chains in his masterminds? 45:28
  • Where does the inspiration for his daily posts come from? 46:43
  • What kind of mentorship has Ryan had and do they develop mentorship rings in the Order of Man? 48:25
  • How old is too old to stop trying to become a better man? 54:29
  • What have been Ryan’s challenges in walking the walk? 55:47
  • What’s Ryan looking forward to in 2017? 58:08
  • One thing under $100 that has changed his life? 59:54
  • Something he believed as a 20 year old that he’d tell himself was completely inaccurate? 1:00:15
  • Something all high school students must know? 1:00:43
  • What’s it mean to live a life of abundance? 1:01:04
  • … and MUCH more!

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ITEMS and PEOPLE MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

  • Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin (Amazon Link)

SHOW NOTE EXTRAS:

8 Skill Sets Every Man Must Master:

The Importance of Mastery:

Be a Lighthouse:

10 Questions Answered about Ryan’s Beard:

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Cheers!

Make a Living From Your Passion: Finding Your First Clients & Introducing the Sales funnel

Last month we talked all about freebie items that you can use for yourself and your business.

But even with free stuff, there’s not much point in calling what you’re doing a “business” if you’re not making regular income with it.

Sure, you can call it a mission, a calling, a passion project, even a “nonprofit”. But until you’re actively trying to make an income with it, it’s not a business.

It becomes a business when you get that first client – someone that actually pays you to do something.
Whether they pay you a $10 on fiverr for your services, or $14.95 through Amazon, or $300 for help with a website, only then can you say you’ve started your business.

Have you made your first sale?

No?

Let’s get on that!

 

The Basics: Who?

In recent years, there’s been lots of talk about this thing called “an avatar”. An avatar is basically a figure of a person who is your ideal client, audience member, etc.

This is the person you’re looking to talk to or help when you’re making your content or products.

As an entrepreneur, it’s your job to get your products in front of people through marketing and then make the sale.

Remember that marketing is simply about getting the word out. It’s not the same thing as sales which is answering questions in a way that influences a final buy.

The better you can communicate how your product can help or add value to a certain group of people, the less problems you’re going to have selling it.

So spend plenty of time getting to know your audience, potential clients and customers.

Where?

Alright. Now that you have your ideal person figured out, here comes the next piece of the puzzle.

Where can you find these folks to help them? Because you have to get in front of them if they’re going to find out if you exist.

What channels can you find them using?

Are they online? If so, where can you find them? Do they use social media regularly? Do they respond to email marketing over social media marketing?

If they’re offline, where can you find them? Farmer’s markets? Art shows?

You’ll have to think of how to get in front of these folks so they know you exist.

 

Temperature of Prospect

The third thing we need to consider is the temperature of our prospect or leads. Meaning do they trust us enough to want to actually buy something?

A hot prospect does.

A hot prospect knows and trusts you enough that they believe that what you’re selling them is going to help them. They’re very easy to sell to as long as your product is somewhere in the ballpark of what they need.

Think of this group as your “A Listers”. Often times this might be friends and family when you’re first starting out.

 

However, before a prospect knows and likes you enough to be a hot lead, they’re in a zone where they’re called a “warm” prospect. These are folks who might be interested in what you’re offering to help them with, but because they don’t know who you are or exactly why they need your product, they’re merely curious.

Your job with warm leads is to simply educate them enough about what you’re offering a bit more to get either a yes or a no (by the way – this is sales).

These are “B Listers”. Acquaintances and everyone else you know besides close friends and family members usually go here.

 

Finally, you’ve probably heard of marketers “cold calling” prospects. They’re called cold calls because there is no relationship or trust built between the marketers and those prospects. Very rarely do those marketers get sales because, frankly, those prospects have to be in the right state of mind to buy right then and there.

These folks are your “C Listers” because you don’t know them yet.

 

Making C’s into A’s – Intro to Sales Funnels:

When you’re first starting out, it’s going to be hard to get more sales after you exhaust your beginning list of A listers and B listers. You’ll eventually have to rely on a steady flow of C listers into your business.

But how do you do that if they don’t even know you exist?

You create a system where they CAN get to know you.

That’s what a sales funnel is all about. It’s a system that’s put in place to have a C Lister eventually turn into an A Lister – making it easy for them to buy from you.

Interestingly, progressing your cold C Listers into A Listers who are ready and willing to buy from you is fairly straightforward. Many times this process is called a sales funnel. And, today, with the help of the internet, we can set it on automatic.

Here’s a simplified example of what that might look like in 10 steps:

 

  1. You get in front of them in a channel, like Facebook, for the very first time.
  2. They check out your content, realize they like it and want to know more about it.
  3. They make it over to your website.
  4. After awhile, they look at you as an authority and know what you’re talking about.
  5. You offer a free something that piques their interest.
  6. They provide email to get that free something.
  7. They now get more regular updates from you in their email.
  8. Eventually you offer them a product and/or deal that’s too good to pass up.
  9. The benefits you give them match up with what their pain is.
  10. Sale is made.
  11. Optional, but good practice is a Followup – give them access to a community of other users using the product or yourself so they can build relationships.

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From that group, you can get ideas for “spin-off” products and start the process all over again.

What’s great is that this group you have now is actually one that’s already bought from you. If they liked what you provided before, then they’re more likely to buy from you again.

Oh, and there’s the side perk that they’re probably going to tell other people about what you’re up to and about.

 

Action Steps:

The above model is overly simplified. But, really, that’s all there is to it. In the next post, I’ll give you a bit more about how to start hacking this system. But, in the meantime, I want you to start identifying your potential first clients from your A and B Listers.

If you’ve already had your first client, can you remember what it was that made them your client in the first place? Could you duplicate it you had to? If not, I want you to also think about how sales funnels can play a part in your business. What would that look like?

Clay Green: Make it Happen – 3 Habits To Help You Get What You Really Want (AoL 078)

Many of us have heard many times the actual steps to being successful. In fact, I’ve wrote about many of these topics in blog posts here at New Inceptions. They include:

  • Reading and/or learning from others who have what you want regularly.
  • You should plan regularly to get what you want.
  • Reflect as much as possible – Daily, weekly, Monthly, Yearly.
  • Appreciate what you have because doing the opposite is what we’re used to and it’s a big reason why so many of us have negative attitudes.

The list goes on.

In today’s episode, co-host of AoL and founder of EnthusiatiCLAY, Clay Green, shares with us his three top habits. These habits include much of what we need to do to achieve long term success.

And we’ve heard people talk about them before.

In this podcast, however, he takes it to the next level. He actually shares proof in why we should be doing these three things.

I also ask him some in depth questions that lead to a great conversation as well.

This is his silver edition, so if you want his background, you can find out more about him in session 46.

As always, thanks for listening, and enjoy the show!

SPECIFICALLY, YOU’LL FIND OUT MORE ABOUT:

  • How we got started in this talk. 6:25
  • How’s his trek going throughout the country going? 8:15
  • What’s the first step to building your own belief? 12:16
  • How do you build your belief circle? 18:02
  • How do you start listening to your own internal voice of what you actually want? 26:50
  • The three habits which can change your life. 21:30
  • Why meditation is important to so many successful people. 31:40
  • Why gratitude is essential to long lasting success. 43:14
  • The hardest thing he’s ever had to say no to. 46:46
  • One thing that cost under $100 that has changed his life. 48:41
  • What’s the smallest decision he’s made that has had the largest impact on his life? 49:30
  • What is one thing all high school students must know? 53:31
  • How can someone be a difference maker in their community? 56:58
  • … and MUCH more!

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ITEMS and PEOPLE MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

SHOW NOTE EXTRAS:

First Tour of Clay’s Trailer:

View of the Garage of Clay’s Trailer:

Followup thoughts on today’s interview:

Enjoying Life:

meditation is a habit of success
belief is a huge part of success
get anything you want
to get what you want you need to think selfishly

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